1st February 2020 Talks Between the Lord and Rāmānanda Rāya - Krsna’s Golden Mood One day Rāmānanda Rāya asked Mahaprabhu: eka saṁśaya mora āchaye hṛdaye kṛpā kari’ kaha more tāhāra niścaye (CC Madhya 8.267) Translation: Rāmānanda Rāya then said that he had but one doubt within his heart, and he petitioned the Lord, “Pease be merciful upon me and just remove my doubt.” I have one doubt. It's been troubling me for many days. Clear my doubt. pahile dekhiluṅ tomāra sannyāsi-svarūpa ebe tomā dekhi muñi śyāma-gopa-rūpa (CC Madhya 8.268) Translation: Rāmānanda Rāya then told Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, “At first I saw You appear like a sannyāsī , but now I am seeing You as Śyāmasundara, the cowherd boy. So Rāmānanda Rāya says when you came then I saw your form of sannyasi. ūrya-śata-sama kānti, aruṇa vasana subalita prakāṇḍa deha, kamala-locana (CC Madhya 8.18) Translation: Śrīla Rāmānanda Rāya then saw Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu to be as brilliant as a hundred suns. The Lord was covered by a saffron garment. He was large in body and very strongly built, and His eyes were like lotus petals. You were covered by saffron garments ( aruna vasana). You had a golden complexion, but now I'm seeing You in a dark complexion. Why has this transformation taken place? tomāra sammukhe dekhi kāñcana-pañcālikā tāṅra gaura-kāntye tomāra sarva aṅga ḍhākā (CC Madhya 8.269) Translation: “I now see You appearing like a golden doll, and Your entire body appears covered by a golden luster. Rāmānanda Rāya says, “I'm also seeing that you were appearing golden( Gaursundara form) and I'm now seeing you dark( Śyāmasundara form) and again I'm seeing that dark complexion is being again covered by a golden complexion. The same thing is stated in Caitanya Bhagavata that "antar krsna bahir gaura". Inside there is Krsna and outside there is Radha. So when I look at You, I see You Two. I'm seeing both Your golden and dark Complexion. "sri krsna caitanya radha krsna nahe anya" ( Caitanya Bhagavata) Translation: Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is none other than the combined form of Sri Sri Radha and Krsna. I'm seeing You in two forms. Earlier I was seeing You alone. āhāte prakaṭa dekhoṅ sa-vaṁśī vadana nānā bhāve cañcala tāhe kamala-nayana (CC Madhya 8.270) Translation: “I see that You are holding a flute to Your mouth, and Your lotus eyes are moving very restlessly due to various ecstasies. Rāmānanda Rāya says, "You are carrying a flute and it has been covered by the golden complexion of Radha or it might be that You are getting embraced by Radharani or You are embracing Radharani. Sometimes I see Radha, sometimes Krsna or sometimes both. ei-mata tomā dekhi’ haya camatkāra akapaṭe kaha, prabhu, kāraṇa ihāra (CC Madhya 8.271) Translation: “I actually see You in this way, and this is very wonderful. My Lord, please tell me without duplicity what is causing this.” I'm getting surprised to see this. So why am I seeing this? Please explain to me. prabhu kahe,—kṛṣṇe tomāra gāḍha-prema haya premāra svabhāva ei jāniha niścaya (CC Madhya 8.272) Translation: Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu replied, “You have a deep love for Kṛṣṇa, and one who has such deep ecstatic love for the Lord naturally sees things in such a way. Please take this from Me to be certain. Mahaprabhu answered back, “ I'm here as it is. You are the only cause of such a vision. This is happening due to your love for Radha and Krsna.” mahā-bhāgavata dekhe sthāvara-jaṅgama tāhāṅ tāhāṅ haya tāṅra śrī-kṛṣṇa-sphuraṇa (CC Madhya 8.273) Translation: “A devotee advanced on the spiritual platform sees everything movable and inert as the Supreme Lord. For him, everything he sees here and there is but a manifestation of Lord Kṛṣṇa. I came in the form of a sannyasi and now also I am a sannyasi. The difference that you are seeing is because of your vision and love for Krsna. Hence you're getting (Sphurti) inspiration to see Krsna everywhere. tāhāṅ tāhāṅ haya tāṅra śrī-kṛṣṇa-sphuraṇa By saying this now Lord Caitanya spoke the principles in the form of a formula. It is a very important principle. sthāvara-jaṅgama dekhe, nā dekhe tāra mūrti sarvatra haya nija iṣṭa-deva-sphūrti (CC Madhya 8.274) Translation: “The mahā-bhāgavata, the advanced devotee, certainly sees everything mobile and immobile, but he does not exactly see their forms. Rather, everywhere he immediately sees manifest the form of the Supreme Lord.” Elevated devotees like Rāmānanda Rāya, whatever they see inanimate, as well as animate, moving or non-moving, they see not the only external form, but by seeing such forms, they are reminded of their worshipable Lord. In one sense, Lord Caitanya said, “You earlier saw My sannyasi form and now you're seeing My dark complexion ( Śyāmasundara form ), and you also see how that dark complexion is being again covered by a golden complexion. You are seeing both Gaura rupa and Syama rupa. So what's My fault? You are responsible for all this. The Lord is inspiring you to see in such a way. I'm the same as I was. I'm sannyasi. I'm Gaur Sundar. I'm Gauranga. But instead of Me, you're seeing Syamsundara and Gaurangi. This is due to your remembrance of your worshipable Lord. In this way, Lord Caitanya inspired Rāmānanda Rāya as He was his Worshipable Lord ( ista-deva). divya-gyan hride prokashito ( Guru Puja) In this way, He gave such darsana to Rāmānanda Rāya of Radha and Krsna. Radha and Krsna are one only. In Kali-yuga they become one. Here Rāmānanda Rāya is seeing Them as one. He is Vishakha and this can't be hidden from her as she sees Radha and Krsna in Goloka. Lalita and Vishakha are having these experiences and this can't be hidden for them. Radha Krsna come together in Kali Yuga to spread the holy names. Taking the complexion of Radharani, He becomes Lord Caitanya. This is clarified in this conversation on the bank of river Godavari at Kovvur. At this place, Lord Caitanya gave this darsana of Radha and Krsna. There the Gaudiya Matha is established by Puri Maharaja, a god brother of Srila Prabhupada. There is a diorama showing this display. Srila Prabhupada also went to that place at Kovvur in 1972 before the Mayapur Festival. He was accompanied by his Western Disciples. I also went there as a padayatri and had the fortune of bathing in the Godavari, taking darsana and hearing this pastime. This is also called Vrindavan of the South. The Godavari is called the Ganga of South India. You can also go there. This conversation took place within one day and Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave darsana to Vishakha. This proves that Lord Caitanya is non-different from Radha and Krsna. Inside there is Krsna and outside there is Gaurangi. So it's Two in One. krsnaya krsna-caitanya- namne gaura-tvishe namah I offer my respectful obeisances to Krsna known as Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu who has assumed a golden complexion. His dark complexion has been covered by the mood of Radharani. Hence He is called Gauranga. So study and think about this. Hari Haribol!